I ordered metal wheels to fit the IHC trucks. RIVAROSSI HO Carro gru a 2 assi+BOX Catalogo Collezionisti 1957/58/59/60 RARIT . The Athearn cars can be a little hit and miss, sometimes they're in production, sometimes not!! You must log in or register to reply here. 30+ years later, I still have all of them in my fleet, now in their 4th or 5th upgrade cycle. On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seem to have had differing door locations, and the coaches all have vestibules on BOTH ends. I actually like the Roundhouse cars but as you reference, they are late 1800s, early 1900s. since i could adjust the coupler height as i went. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines or coaches. If anyone wants I can share some pictures but I won't worry about it otherwise. Ho RIVAROSSI 4-6-2 " Light Pacific" C.B.&Q #462 BURLINGTON ROUTE Nice! 4. I used Kadee 33" wheel sets. Took about an hour of carefull work as to not get the metal rims to hot. Rivarossi HO scale Baltimore & Ohio Passenger Car Train B&O # 5501 new $15.00 $9.85 shipping or Best Offer Rivarossi HO Scale Santa Fe Super Chief 1930s Passenger 4 Car Set A NIB 6938 (1) $200.00 $15.00 shipping or Best Offer HO RIVAROSSI RT600036 VISTA DOME ALASKA # 500 $129.99 $7.95 shipping or Best Offer Yves The Pocher factory was in Turino, Italy and the RivaRossi factory in Como, Italy. I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. Dyson V8 Animal+ Cordless Vacuum | Purple | Certified Refurbished, Swiss Gold 20 Francs (.1867 oz) - Helvetia - BU - Post 1933 - Random Date, Great Britain Gold Sovereign (.2354 oz) - King Edward - XF/AU - Random Date, $2.50/Mo Red Pocket Prepaid Plan: 200 Talk 1000 Text 200MB, March of the Machine Collector Booster Box - MTG Magic the Gathering - New! Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Walthers 933-1052: HO RIVAROSSI Passenger Car INTERIOR LIGHTING Kit NIOB at the best online prices at eBay! You can go with Train Station Products trucks for your Rivarossi units. Off the top of my head, the RPO is a match or near-match for RPOs that the C&O and the Wabash used, and I /think/ the B&O, Southern and L&N. Should I look for metal ones made by IHC or are there other suitable, less expensive options. ), it's going to be a loteasier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists thatdon't look as much like a boxed set. $60.00 + $17.00 shipping. They were very good quality for the 60's and 70's. > Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are?> > I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and> could not find a believable match for any of them. Skip to product information. Not a question but, chances are good that your loco. Thanks everyone! it is your call, but i would try the 33 inch wheel sets in one car and see if i was happy with that. At one time, I had four sets of four Rivarossi 60' passenger cars. These sets occasionally appear now on eBay, with 4 car sets often going for around $100. They are very Nice cars, that I am sure you will be very Happy with. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners. Are other than coach cars forthcoming? Note: All prices in US Dollars Billboard Posters 1940-1960 Price If you look around Walthers also had a 3 coach set bundled with a passenger set. By todays standards they . Mine also have metal wheels but I can't remember if they were original or add ons. I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials andcould not find a believable match for any of them. I have some of those 60' cars from when they were made by Walthers - Trainline. If you are looking at the older cars, you would have to be prepared to fit new couplers and wheels. . $1200 IHC 9052 RIVAROSSI HO INTERIOR FOR ROOMETTE SLEEPER 4 WHEEL 1930 PASSENGER CAR $1200 Train Interior Rivarossi AHM IHC 1920's Duplex Sleeper Passenger Car HO Scale $2500 Passenger Seating Car Coach Interior For MDC Roundhouse HO Scale Overton Coach Gray $800 HO Train 50' Combine Passenger Luggage Car Interior Roundhouse MDC $1200 I will have a lot more questions soon. Previous topic - Next topic. HO Scale Athearn HO 84857 50' Old Time Overland Passenger Car Set, Great Northern #1 (4) SKU: ATH-84857. I ended up pulling up the curve and fixing it. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. Railway: DB. I replaced the original wheels, which I think are 31", with nominally correct 36" wheels from Kadee. I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and could not find a believable match for any of them. Come join the discussion about brands, various scales, repairs, storage, displays, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! This vendor had a half dozen sets a couple of weeks ago and that was the last I am told. I thought the Rivarossi trucks seemed flimsy. The firstto be run will be the coaches, then a baggage-mail and finally a combine. Capt, I could be wrong about this (and I'm sure someone will point that out to me) but I thought Rivarossi, as a train manufacturer business was gone. $120.90 Reply Pre-owned. Sometimes the metal wheels found their way on to the unlighted cars. 60 Ft. RPO - O Scale. IMHO, mid-grade. These cars have body mounted couplers and will in my experience have trouble with curves below 24" radius. Everyday trains got Pullman Green. On those, I have replaced the trucks with Walthers passenger trucks. The two windows flanking the baggage door were taken from Athearn coaches Rivarossi also offered a combine, but it had only three windows on each side, near the car's end (the prototype was used as a "rider car", at the rear of a baggage/express train). I bought the NP set in the two tone green. I picked up a Walthers lighting kit for each car, whick provided replacement trucks with metal wheels. The same guy (Bernard Paul) was involved in both, but the products were not the same. Most of the Horizon stuff I've seen in the Athearn name is RTR and IMO, Overpriced. Easy to do. The dealer claims they can run on 18 inch radius. A little longer is baggage dorm series 1602 - 1605 which were 70 feet 0in over end sills. Raised on the Erie Lackawanna Mainline- Supt. thanks for your info guys. Thanks Don! They can easily be upgraded with wire grab irons. Some versions had plastic wheels and axles and all had small diameter wheels. Unfortunately I don't get up that way, that is why we have a resident driver in Fife, we bring him his loaded trailers, take home his yesterday empty, and it is not an overnight for either of us that way. all with clerestory roofs. I think the 60' cars all came with interiors. It uses a Mashima motor on part of an Athearn F-unit frame, to drive the lead truck, also from Athearn. . I'm trying to avoid modifying how the truck attaches to the frame. Enjoy your new engine. The Rivarossi 60's are Clerestory roofed Heavy weights, not the round roofed, at least all mine are. Notes: * In the 50th Anniversary (1988) Rivarossi Catalog a model 9902 3 Pack is also listed. He says it is HO. Twelve various HO scale Santa Fe Heavyweight passenger cars, various manufacturers, all . i'm a big kid right now.. going to open them up and get some pics. I was wondering if the sets offered by Trainworld at $30 were the same, but never got through to staff to find out, the line was always busy. 3. I bought some a while ago and they have given me nothing but problems to deal with. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green'wasn't GREEN at all. I thought they only were produced with Chicago & NW and Pennsy road names. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, I upgraded all to McHenry truck mounted couplers, 36" or 38" Intermountain wheelsets (after removing car brake shoes), and, when necessary, extra weight using glued birdshot in nooks and crannies of model floors. ), it's going to be a lot easier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists that don't look as much like a boxed set. Fortunately, it appears that the Kato and Con-corcorrugated Budd cars are all prototypical, but only the slumbercoachis an identical car common to both lines. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) At the club our mainlines have a 36" minimum radius, but I believe that the Oregon Trunk branch line and the Logging division may be 30" minimums, which still doesn't help You. . However, I don't do too much, just adding say 1 oz. Trains. These are great coaches, track well, look fantastic, just perfect for the smaller layouts. 2. I have ten Rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars I run with a A/B set of Athearn PAs. I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. If so, sounds great. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. That shop sounds like my kind of place. Rivarossi 60' RPO car. It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW. Generally speaking, they are a good choice in model. Walthers Plastic HO Model Train Passenger Cars, Walthers HO Flat Car Model Train Carriages, Thank you. This product has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is limited to the quantity on hand. rivarossi rivarossi HO Rivarossi IHC EIGHT Union Pacific 2 Color Gray Passenger Cars Boxed (121RX) August 16, 2022 This listing is for a HO gauge Rivarossi set of 8 smooth side passenger cars in two tone gray. I looked with the search function but that thing is harder to get results than it use to be and that's sayin' something! It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. Free shipping for many products! All was fine. I run them both straight out of the box with their horn hook couplers, and also heavily detailed and modified to include body mounted Kadee couplers. There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment. They are advertised to handle 18 inch curves, and they do. While I had the shells off for lighting, I painted the interior and added some passengers. Even with interiors they need additional weight to bring them up to standards. The cars are brand new old stock. But we (my dad and I) went crazy and also bought a 2-8-8-2 and a bunch of other things. 3) What kind of couplers are on them now? Where I disagree is that their diesels weren't any good. But it did take on a greenish cast under some weathering and lighting conditions. Rivarossi 2709 US Passenger Car New York Central Gauge H0 Unrecorded Boxed | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. This product has been discontinued by The Western Depot and is limited to the quantity on hand. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) I've got 3 Rivarossi coaches and a baggage car. Regardless of railroad. These cars will be a welcome addition, the Milwaukee had very similar coaches with 6 wheel trucks. Many older CB&Q head end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so they would not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-side stainless steel cars. When I was buying them in the 1980s, interiors were optional, iirc. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. I have been having trouble with Con-Cor horn-hook couplers. Hi. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM)cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where theprototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines orcoaches. "I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!". You can see where the one axle was rubbing on the coupler mounting boss. Rivarossi used to put out two 4 car passenger sets. The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GN was of this nature. Premier Name trains got the pretty paint. I would liketo know more about them too. Free delivery for many products. They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used? Rivarossi HO 85' Smoothe Side Diner Louisville & Nashville "Cross Keys Tavern", Rivarossi HO 85' Smooth Side Coach Louisville & Nashville #2585 - Nice, Passenger Car Interior KIT for AHM/Rivarossi 72ft Heavy-Weight Coach [ HO ]. Started by patzwaldb, February 21, 2009, 02:19:16 PM. So, it was actually a DARK yellowish black. HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi, IHC Passenger cars in box. Those cars were completely different than the Rivarossi / Hornby / Walthers 60' cars that came out a quarter century later. I never liked the truck mounted couplers and replaced mine with body mounts. The "windows" are a plastic box that fits inside the car body so the windows are not flush with the outside of the car body. These are based on ATSF cars, but are fairly generic and could be used for many other railroads. I've since replaced them with KDs. the whole point is moot since i pull them with either a pair of P2K E units or a couple of boiler equipped P2K geeps. I also added weight to the cars and retained the integral couplers (versus body mounted) but replaced them with Kadees. I have obtained a few of these sets off of e-bay. . Rivarossi Southern Pacific HO Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi Union Pacific Railroad HO Model Railroad Locomotives, Many older CB&Qhead end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so theywould not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-sidestainless steel cars. Big dog's bark is definitely worse than his bite ( never bit anyone that I know of, but he is intimidating, if you don't know him) Plan on lots of time in there, after you wander around awhile, LeRoy will talk your ears off. These were the last cars made by Rivarossi before they went bankrupt, too bad as they were well finished and tracked well. While I've never bought one new, I have quite a few bought off the "used" table at a now long-gone hobbyshop.I think that the detail is decent, although the wheels are undersize, and have flanges which are deeper than most HO scale wheels. I recently bought an eight car, Rivarossi streamline train in CNW on ebay. However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. The GN buffs are still squabbling over these details. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. Shop from top railroading brands like Centralia Car Shops, Bachmann, Walthers, and Lionel. On the cars pictured below I replaced the stock Rivarossi "Pizza Cutter" wheels with. O SCALE AHM RIVAROSSI 4 CAR BOXED PASSENGER CAR SET-C-9-used-Original Boxes! I am looking at getting a four car set of rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars in GN livery. The only issue is that with wheels that are 5"bigger in diameter you do tend to raise the car height up a bit. They appear to be updates of the 40 year old Walthers metal-sided "Shorty" passenger cars. Again DON'T judge them from the road. Living the dream and happily modeling my STRATTON AND GILLETTE Railroad in HO scale. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. PRR had so much stuffthere may be some hope there. or 16oz.They tracked even better, and their behaviour was a lot more prototypicalthe best I can describe it was that the cars rolled ponderouslyno shimmy, no shake, nothing toylike about them at all. The roofs may, or may not, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truck enamel'. The coaches/combine they modeled appear to be C&NW specific, but maybe we will see other 'old' passenger cars brought out by Walthers. A railroad had to bemighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specifictrain. * For similar cars, see also ConCor Heavyweights. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives, There were more recent runs of Rivarossi 72' cars that have a completely different design, more in line with what Walthers uses on their Proto line, probably both made by Hornby which purchased the assets of Rivarossi a few years back. This is a unit I metalized and weathered. #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters Be the first to review this product $5.99 Availability: In stock 287 in stock SKU 508 Add to Cart #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters is available to buy in increments of 1 Details #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters 1pr. First(and only)place on the right. But today is a Gift, that is why it is called the Present. PRR had so much stuff there may be some hope there. If anyone has some good ideas on how to upgrade these passenger cars I'd appreciate it. Those with the distinctive inset bottom sill are Santa Fe: diner, combine and maybe observations? If I add enought weight will they stay on the rails? Ihave just returnedfrom my train room where I was rail testing my latest recently purchased Riverossi 60' coach set. I've riden on similar ex-Rock Island commuter cars in the last few years at the Osceola and St.Croix RR, part of the Minnesota Transportation Museum's scenic train line. Rivarossi have been making HO scale cars since the early 1950s. It has everything except smoke. $5 - $ . They come with basic interiors, and I've seen three car sets (baggage, 2 coaches) available NIB in the local LHS recently, $50 give or take. I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. This item was produced exclusively for The Western Depot. Prices for these sets seem to range from $40.00 to $110.00 depending upon how many bidders there were. Underbody detail is cast in place, so upgrading that is harder, but hopefully you'll not be viewing them belly-up too often! Every pic I've seen of the Rivarossis on ebay, etc. So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars fromthe turn of the century until after WWII. Excellent. Thank you for any help you may offer. The interiors an be purchased separately. I do think the IHC cars are a "bit of this bit of that" generic, b ut I have seen online lists which purport to show the exact prototype of the Rivarossi/AHM heavyweights. I did resist the urge to get a checkerboard sleeper and a dome car because the B & M never owned such. In addition to Rivarossi, there's a company embarking on Boston & Maine 60/66 foot Coaches, and Combines in Resin. Bid Live on Lot 4105 in the Model Train Sale Auction from Vectis Auctions Ltd. IIRC, there was even a 60' combine painted in the yellow/green 400 colors. If you have Rivarossi's 60' Baggage RPO car, THAT one I used Jaybee 110 or 111 coupler pads, Jaybee 36" wheels, and Kaydee #38 couplers were perfect.. A Line weight's brought it to 3 3/4oz. Le migliori offerte per Vintage HO Train Car - Rivarossi Burlington Northern Dome Passenger Car #357 sono su eBay Confronta prezzi e caratteristiche di prodotti nuovi e usati Molti articoli con consegna gratis! 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