So what do we do about it? Your wages will be garnished out of your check and sent directly to the child support office so the child support office can get their matching federal dollars which is a huge multi-billion-dollar industry for these states it is sad and corruption and its very worse taking children away from their fathers so the state the attorneys the judges can all make money off this deal sickening is what it is. As a woman you have many non pemanent options for BC first off, guy get condoms that can be tampered with by people searching for a paycheck,not saying you did this but many do. My ex was a gold digger narcissistic type. Not every divorce is by mutual choice. Shut off the spigot to the states and the states are less motivated to enforce child support. The SYSTEM IS BROKEN!! You make wild assumption that mothers use the child support for the kid and daycare It is often not the case, even my own mom (a good mom) still used the system to throw my dad in jail for missed payments in the 1985. There are so many issues with this system. Plus, check out their power-packed Legal Tips page for all parents fighting family court, too Wow!! If you have another child then that child does not factor into the support. It is not about bitterness The curry court system is one sided. My wife began seeing someone else and blamed it on me being distant. Just told me what I was going to pay based off what I made they didnt consider my other cases now on top of that she jumped up took my kids out of school and moved to a different city called child support and they said she can do what she want. Women can get men jailed easily one bogus domestic violence or sexual assault charges. Child support is effectively a blackmail or extortion system whereby the state takes you children unconstitutionally, and then uses that excuse to charge you extortion fees weekly for the privilege of NOT having your children! Once the child reaches 18 years of age, in most states, it is no longer required that the father pay child support. She was a nurse practitioner whose license had been yanked and she was looking for income. The mom or the taxpayers, so stop complaining and say thank you to the other people who pay to raise your children. The equal earning parents then have dramatically different post-child support budgets, since one is receiving and the other is paying. Modification is there for that reason. The single parent has to pay for what the child needs despite what kind of time theyre going through. BTW my ex comes from a very wealthy family. Also EXPARTE DAVIS, 344 sw 2d 295 (1976). As a woman, I am personally sick of certain women( not all) taking good honest men for all their worth just because these men had had children with them. Daycare, my foot. I have 50/50 so called placement. In P.A. My ex should be responsible 100% to support their own household. While the government is very efficient with its enforcement of child support laws, it might be more beneficial to address its child custody statutes. Absolutely right, Stevon! Unfortunately, some parents dont take initiative to support their child but I do see that the system is flawed, I. The problem is that 50/50 is not the default and men have to bankrupt themselves in the hope of obtaining custody of their own children! Just saying. If guys can go around have kids all over the place without facing consequences for their actions then yeah something should be done about that. Rotten and broken system where the children get hurt the worst and a father is allowed to raise their step children and not their own. If she makes that much more. Recent studies show impairment in brain development when children are thrust into these environments (and no, I do not believe that the system is outdated. An the court system in general is biaist. Join forces and demand reform!!! This system is so bad! The ex refuses to certify for bankruptcy court that my CS is current. How much are we allowing to occur? But goes to Vegas and Cancun all the time.. and when he takes the kid , he makes him babysit so he and his new wife can go and get drunk on a bar and party. She would stay in bed til 2 pm and get up and make herself food. Pray for strength and be glad you will never have to look your child in the eye and explain why you didnt try. Men have complete control. If we are trying to be fair and equal. I dont get it. Insofar as the childrens rights? Judges dont get to know every case there are just to many and to them its only a job and they could care less if you are struggling due to an idoit you were once involved with,you are only a paycheck to judges and lawyers and they sure dont give a crap about the child. In many cases jail is actually better from some men if they are young enough and physically big. I went to court with all this paperwork and the judge didnt even look at anything or wanted to hear what I had to say but granted her the order for 3 years so I can not see my daughter for 3 years. All us good dads want is a voice to be heard and change in this messed up system. Imagine a scenario where parents have 50/50 custody, earn equal amounts, therefore being capable of offering the child the same lifestyle at each home. Saying that I still think the system is broken and outdated. I do not keep our daughter away from him or his family; I have, however, stopped being the person to make arrangements for her to see any of them. Holy crap, the excuses here for being a deadbeat. I just know that I did not create/produce her alone and I shouldnt have to take care of her alone. SHE abandoned him and for no reason; I have been married to my husband for 16 years and he has never even raised his voice to me, he is so kind and gentle. I feel everyones pain in this comment section Im a dad and I have not worked for 3 months dues to my wife having an AFE(amniotic Fluid Embolism) I have to help her she is in bad condition and Im the only that can care for her she cannot be left alone she is a fall risk and has numerous health issues she cant even walk. Also the my ex didnt let me see my son for the until now I havent seen him. Something has to be changed it is o my making fathers to work longer hours and not have time for family. A Missouri state senator who went viral because he apparently thinks it's OK for 12-year-olds to get married is clarifying his remarks. There is too much money to be made in respect to how it is. Because the custodial parent (90% of the time being women). Their mother made every situation so impossible, add drinking a prescription pills into the mix, then a court system that always gives the mom the upper hand even with criminal convictions and documented suicidal tendencies, there is no analysis of the entire situation or consideration for the good of the children beyond the support dollars. Seems actually having to care for his boys for an entire week, every other week is too much to bear for him. The problem is too many people are employed in this scam. Agreed!! it took them 3 weeks to even decide to allow me visitation..because of her plan and how she played the victim card..i dont have the money to sue for perjury. General Attorney office is a joke, and yes the system is full broken. Recently, firms that specialize in men's divorce have popped up all over. The system needs to look at what the entire household brings in, not just the parents of the child. Its unfair to my child.mind you before he got incarcerated he owed over $15,000 in support. Well why did you sleep with them. unbelievable- luckily he is back at work but the arrearage is now on his credit report which he was never made aware of. No matter what the circumstances are a parent should pay child support and the child should live a life style which they have become accustomed to. Both parents are not required to be working. Meanwhile, Mr. I pay all this money for a kid I cant see guess what, youre not buying access. 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A fairer modern version of the custody law would: a) make 50/50 physical custody in ALL circumstances automatically (even at a distance) except when one party does not desire it; b) no transfer of income unless one of the parents makes below a certain amount relative to the other (the notion that full equalization of home incomes is good for the children has no research basis); c) changes in child support would occur automatically, in either direction, depending on each parents income (there would be no bias againts males); d) in general the legal interventions would be minimal except to guarantee that both parental rights and responsibilities are preserved and that they are raised by both parents on equal terms. Dont know where we are going. I was told that Child Support credited me the $400 i sent over the course of the previous years but i was in debt the remaining $600 every month since the day she walked out on me. I have another child with my wife I also need to support. That only means, to look in the mirror, if that characterization applies. Fill your pain? It defies logic on so many levels She makes 160k a year. I just received notice in Ohio that my support is doubling. This isnt an episode of Trnasformers, where the hot dad, looking like Mark Wahlberg is raising his daughter alone, or on some other isolated tale there the mom is the bad guy. The relief i have felt from bankruptcy? Often times child support is breaking the bond with fathers and their children because payments are so expensive that we fathers may not even have enough gas to visit. My daughter has never been close to me since. Am I wrong for not communicating with him at all? Ive been thinking all this same stuff for a long time on my own! And also tried to kidnap the oldest. Good luck. Sisters and (brothers) who are raising your children alone; keep the faith. So why bother. We have no visitation schedules, as long as it doesnt interfere with school he can get her/see her whenever he/she wants/ is able. I have two daughters with two different mothers. 2) Always wear your condoms when having sex. Now take half your paycheck and give it to the next person you see. They will remember that before a child support check. Unite and fight the system. So enter a judges job But its just a job to the judge so status quo is what you get. How come judges dont give a crap? Call The Firm For Men, located conveniently in Virginia Beach, at 757-383-9184, or contact us online, to learn how we can help you with your child support, modification, garnishment and related issues. When he called child support this week and essentially asked them to reconsider and/or issue a temporary license due to his situation they told him flat out that there was nothing they can do and he still owes regular payments even without having a source of income. My retirement is 75k. Giana Messore licensed in AR only Little Rock, AR. Many fathers just accept the notion that they are only entitled to 4 nights a month (every other weekend) with their children and don't realize they can get more time if they fight for it. Out dated systemI have 2 boys and share time with them 50/50. The fathers who never pay, never visit, who want nothing to do with their children. That is pennies of the cost of raising my precious spawn. I have decided to not even communicate with his family. when my son comes for the summer , his mother still wants me to pay child support and take care of him for the summer, she will only pay half on a plane ticket and thats becuase she doesnt want my son to switch planes, so she pays for a direct flight, my drive to the airport is longer then his flight home. By the way there is little to no evidence that moms make better solo parents than dads do. Its almost as if high financial payouts are a secret personal reward for going through birth when in most of the cases, its actually us women that want to have children. Its design results in discrimination against fathers both in terms of custody and child support. Even after i gave in to her demands she got the house,new car,property,kids,tax credit i got the 20k loan debt that i had to barrow to cover her Credit card spending spree and a fixed amount for child support,,no problemfine that was the deal my lawyer said sign it its the best you will get and its over for good. Gets better, I have a second child, his son, which he also never offered to take care of while I lived at the hospital with my daughter. Ive signed a release for my son to obtain a passport so that he may go on a cruise with his mom and her boyfriend because it was the right thing to do yet I am restricted from leaving the country or having a passport because..? Fathers always have the opportunity to file for custody and visitation and plead their case to the courts. What the courts dont tell you is that it is possible under Federal law to use a private agreement for child support. What the PC parent has to realize is when the parent-child relationship is destroyed to maintain the monopoly that is an actual legal way out of the monopoly. Some of the tactics that states and local jurisdictions have employed to increase child support collection among low-income non-custodial dads include: Making child support payments more affordable. and low and behold im being taken to court to ALTER the child support 2 weeks later.. they want 1200$ a month for 3 kids i never get to see because of her lies and brain washing..I even have to PAY for the visitation i had 3 visits in a year. I think the takeaway from all of these comments is there is no standard situation. The courts need to take into account all of the other broad complexities of a situation.. For example the federal governmetn says 12,000 a year is plenty for a single person to live off of, and then they have other numbers for familes with 1,2 or more children on what a single or family should be able to live off of. Welfare is not the parents money, it is effectively child support paid by the state because the custodial parent cant or wont pay. Im still a low income father with huge back payments. I have expressed my concerns to her dad (when I still talked to him) and he never has any response other than that our daughter knows he loves her. Once last comment, what is sad also is so many women would use this unjust system. At the very least rebooted it is definitely getting old. File for full custody. Im sure Steven, but for how long? The matching dollars was supposed to help States pay for tracking down dead beat dads, but now every dad that gets a divorce is a dead beat. amen to that. Dido mine cheated and my kids live with grandmother her mother while shes out partying and doing drugs Im in mass shes in florida and my kids tell me shes never their said she lives in a van her own mother cant stand her. Jade, why do so many women want to be custodial parent if its such a burden? And I do the right thing for my child. I made these payments every month for 3 years while we were separated. But that will not stop it. Where is the child? Go to school? Below is a comment I read on an article about . Then see how many ask for money from the ex to support the children. Thanks. Our child support attorneys at Pittsburgh Divorce & Family Law, LLC see incorrect and unfair child support arrangements all the time. I pay what I can when I can but I wont be able to work at all if this happens and my girlfriend cant afford to support us both and shouldnt have to if the courts would follow the law and calculate the arrears and payments based on my actual adjusted gross income. Have a physical confrontation with wife and/or children. The FEDS help the states to ensure dad pays. This divided things and made dads home and moms home two seperate sides for our son. Ever wonder why the state doesnt care how the child support money is used, only whether it is paid? Lets face it, our government (federal, state & local) cant even manage their funds s0 in exchange, the system becomes over burdened, yet the salaries of the government employees continue to rise. He wasnt paying child support before all the rest of his kids came along. My ex wife was ordered to pay $55/wk, but is now $60G behind because shes never been enforced to pay. I went to court she didnt bring any paystubs showing she only made that much. And will trash mouth to the children about their father. I claim bankruptcy. So sad how the law works.. AMEN, this is the mos awsome thing I have heard/readI absolutely applaud, and what I was expectingnot what happened, not close by farwas awful. Only your own hatred for the person that burned you. How do we change it? That way kids are being helped by both parents. The current system does help in some instances but in this one i believe it created greed. Then she brought in a hand written note that anyone could of wrote. His ex was on housing, having to list how much child support she was receiving. I for once dont even bother in asking for money. It not my choice to have every visitation center say sorry your an abuser we will not supervise I think both parents should have to work and if the parent with custody has infant they shouldnt have to work until the child starts school then starts both parents haveing jobs and i think the custodial parent should have to show receipts of where the CHILD SUPPORT goes to the the children like light bill rent water if ya have to pay for such and heating if not wood heat a/c is a luxury not a necessity fans cool just fine also no car payments cause less face it people theres always public transportation that will take you anywhere you need to go and there are goverment assited phones so ya dont need an 800 dollar iphone or what ever anyway thats just my take on things O one more thing if its court order that you payand have visitation ever other weekend well dangit custodial parents stick to the LAW and if a child moves out before turning 18 dont lie and keep collecting child support for that child also a LAW i think its called fraud theift embezzlement or something im sure its nit good and could lead to prison if you still accepted the money for o i dont know 3 years and didnt let the person paying the child support see their children which was court ordered okay i think im done STUPID CHILD SUPPORT. Once she aborts the fetus, the females interests in and obligations to the child are terminated. Its sickening. Given the capacity for errors in human judgment, of course there may be fathers who have heartbreakingly had access to their children unjustly restricted. All this state funded support also places a burden on the noncustodial parent to replace that support when the custodial parent is more than capable of providing some type of support to at least even the blow. Jade I am sorry you have know earthly idea what you are talking about. (Im sure you can sense the dripping sarcasm.). Why would she put the necessary effort into a relationship, when she could just as easy move on, collect child support, and start a new life with someonewho has income of his own. So if that isnt a DEAD BEAT DAD WHAT IS? More importantly, I want her to have a good relationship with her dad, as I know too many women who have issues because of the kind of relationship they had with their dad, or lack thereof. Im in definite agreement for change. We decided to open a business because 30% of his check would go to child support. Bad people are everywhere, mothers, fathers, step parents, it is our nations duty to defend us from their attack, foreign AND DOMESTIC. That is the lie the court and its band of merry thieves in the Support Collections Unit tell non-custodial parents who most often happen to be fathers. Child support an child support court are all biaist. Financially it was a hardship, I could not pay my bills, moved back in with my mother, filed bankruptcy etc, while still attempting to correct this child support issue. If your not going to try and work together with him then you do what you do and he does what he does. There are support for the divorce side which wasnt helpful for my case. The child support laws are extremely out dated . While the non custodial parent (90% of the time men) have to pay. THOSE payments run from millions to tens of millions per year. This is not fatherhood. Absolutely . If the mother works and makes $140k a year, then your annual child support obligation of $20,892 does not even come close to what she is contributing to the care of your kids if she is the custodial parent. As a still single parent of two, I never got to start over or have any me time either. KIDNAPPER. System is outdated and unfair. The Judge asks my council to hold a telecon with my exs council in the Judges chambers. Im in Illinois btw.. Jamie I can relate. Meaning, he has to prove you are a threat to your kid. However, many dads want to be involved, but when the court says you can only have them every other weekend, its hard to form a relationship. I want to be in my daughters life. [1] Typically, it is paid to the parent with whom the children spend the majority of their time. I can say hes father and i have a healthy relationship not that i wouldnt need the help.But my son is far more inportant that to put him in stress of seeing me and hes father arguing for money . Oh yah, Im a female and see how these feminists have become the chauvinists (? Shes getting 1150 in child support and 660 in alimony a month. And no government action should have the power to upset equality. And you told it as it is. They always come home and bring their friends and significant others with them. Dads with evidence of moms keeping them from seeing thier kids, should definatelty get in trouble. Yea. So now my fiance hasnt seen them in about 2 years, doesnt want the next lie to place him in jail and she makes about 50,000 a year while her husband makes 40,000, and my fiance makes about 30,000 a year. Im broke she gets new boobs, car, marriage and turns both kids against me. I dont want a dime from her I already pay 100%. 5) Because they think the system is biased against fathers. My daughter is with me every other weekend and about a month of extras. If Rose was a man your response would be completely different. It sounds like a . He gets many phone calls on his show about this topic. The sad reality is I began to understand why some fathers would disappear from their childs life. Thats a different story. If they didnt want the above, they would have listened to Karen DeCrow. 3. A lot of walking. They are not killing their cash cows. Two years later the welfare system made her produce a father because you can ONLY be. Plus, by his time, the kids didnt want to leave a household where they could do just about whatever they want, and come live in a household where there would be rules and consequences. She works at a very low paying job and has for years. Even if she makes 2-3 more an hour her house nite is more than one of he paychecks lol. If the man is deemed the father, he should obtain a lawyer for child support and take the mother to court. #METOO, free the nipple. Be there for the kids or dont be there at all. This includes food, health insurance, transportation to school, and one third of the utilities. And I cover her boys under my insurance, at that. SMH. They are turning our children into disrespectful, hateful, unappreciative, entitled, narcissitic young adults who lack empathy, and have learned to lie cheat and steal as long as it is a means to their end, without remorse, without morals, standards, or integrity. Using absolutes makes you look less credible as nobody all the time, nor every person is the same. If anyone has been ordered to pay interest on their child support obligation, please feel free to ask the court or local prosecutor to recalculate the interest you are or have been ordered to pay based on this FEDERAL law. . The system needs Common Sense Reform. The first was a rastafarian who claimed he could not cut hair like he used to, and planned to get an hvac license, $300 perge 30 days. You are going to say you cant get blood from a stone but your spouse still needs to pay the bills. Taking both of these actions increases the gross amount of child support collected, which then increases the kickbacks that states receive under the CSPIA for collecting child support. Paying 300, 500 per month?? She saw a sweet and trusting man and she took full advantage. And I can see when the child support check is cashed off my bank statements Each month its cashed a weekend I have my girls And the next week when I get my girls back They didnt do anything but sit on their tablets and didnt get snacks like they do with me (fruits and vegetables) but their mother does have a brand new car, The problem is no one wants to advocate for the fathers. I AgreeThe system must be changed. There are no outlets, besides grassroot organizations for single fathers to reach when dealing with child support cases. It doesnt take a genius to figure out that this is a big scam. My kids have a roof over there head, clothes on their back, shoes on their feet, and food on their table, BECAUSE of the Lord and ME! Its not welfare and its not based on need. We can help get a repeal of the Social Security Act Title IV, Part D, Section 458. Statistically the only difference in who wins custody has become the number of men who dont battle for it, the actual custody battles that take place display numbers that show this issue is about family, about capitalism, and about a government that has no concern for the livlihood of our children, of their future, of our grandkids future, and our society is essentially doomed because of the denial of the manevolence of our powers that be. Im a good father. Problem with support. Its supposed to cover 1/2 of childcare. These financial incentives also explain why states ignore 42 US Code 654(21)(a), which caps the maximum amount of interest that a state can charge on child support arrears at 6-percent. Having to pay a sitter just to go to the doctor/dentist etc. We tried to fight this in court and he lost. Child Support was never designed to be about the child. We should not feel criminalized because our spouses cheated on us, or villanized us, or whatever they did. I now make half of what i did when my ex started her plan, I cant provide for myself anymore, much less let my kids to experience a great time when I have them, other than juat the love i can give them,but sometimes that just isnt enough for them at rhia point as little kids, they dont know all about the deep down love I have but they do know we dont get to do a whole lot or have a whole lot when they are with me, and as little kids that is important to them. Dont be afraid, make sure that the powers that be, the judge, understands that you are not in agreement of any order that violates your rights as a human being, that is, your right to parent your child as you see fit. and your civil rights are being violated and definitely hire an attorney. Her father NEVER paid one penny towards any medical expenses. So he was not making enough money to help in the household therefore came our decesion in opening a business, however this came to a bigger problem the ex found out so she is sending us to court to have her child support increased . Sad truth and when I think about it all.I just say its not forever and when my kids are grown they will learn about this from myself and hopefully not put themselves in this position. Mike indefinitely agree with you. God bless! Worth a sacrifics in the long run but the counter support for him, can come from me. 51% deadbeat MOM, by current Wa. She was lazy. 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