I wish all such rousing legends were this alive and this well. . The best thing you can do to increase your hunting success is to understand the anatomy of your quarry and practice with your rifle until you can put your first shot exactly where it should go. CZ makes a fine rifle, and Montana Rifle Company makes their DGR with a nice big muzzle brake that actually makes it quite comfortable to shoot. It's got the history and all the oomph one could ever need. They were offered in those chamberings plus .416 Rem, .404 Jeffery, .425 W.R., .450 Rigby, .500 Jeffery, .505 Gibbs. To this point, only one has achieved that number and, somewhat predictably, that turns out to be the .458 Win Mag (in my CZ 550) with a total score of 74. I have a .458 Lott and 404 Jeff , I would rather download the jeff than the 458 Lott or WM . The 3-inch variant has been the most popular with many new double rifles, as well as the Ruger No. Having killed, what, 1000 elephants and countless other game, he had a better handle on what worked and when to take those shots than the blow hard keyboard warrior that kills a deer or two per year. But thats not to cast doubt with faint praise with todays powders and stronger rifles it is quite capable of impressive performance though nothing extraordinary. It is sad that these great cartridges have fallen by the wayside. S.D. I dont think the modern Jeffery loadthe 400-grain bullet at 2350 fpsgives up much to the Rigby, though the higher sectional density of the Rigby bullet might influence a choice, but the greater frontal diameter.423-inch v. .416-inchmight offset that concept. Selbys .470 double rifle had been accidently run over and damaged, and the only suitable rifle he could find in Nairobi was a dirty, rusty-looking .416 Rigby. Though there were so few produced, the reputation of the .416 Rigby inspired writers like Jack OConnor, who also sang its praises. Im a bit late this week because of involvement in a deer hunt; so lets get to it! Their designation uses the smaller land (rather than groove or bullet) diameter. The .404 Jeffery was designed to duplicate .450/.400 ballistics in a bolt-action rifle. With all due respect to the classics, I think there are better cartridges out there now that are more suitable and will outperform most of those listed. vs. .458 Lott7mm Rem. But with the exception of that .405 Winchester, any of these cartridges will make you a happy hunter. Hunting dangerous game requires a rifle cartridge larger than most of us use regularly, one with the ability to save your bacon and to end a confrontation quickly and without anyone getting hurt. Mag. The bore diameter is .510, so it shoots the same size and weight bullets as the .500 NE, only at nearly +200 fps. and other magnums, in that a 200-yard . And, in comparison to the .375s and 9.3mms, the bullet weight (along with correlative energy) of these lower .40s makes a definite difference when it comes to penetration. You must log in or register to reply here. for 4,020 ft.-lbs. to be called the Forty-Five-Moor Matches. I would stick with a PH who shows better judgement. It remains a great choice for a light-recoiling double-rifle cartridge capable of handling all game, including elephant. Using a .410-inch bullet, the classic .450-400 3-inch load consisted of a 400-grain bullet at 2,050 fps for 3,732 ft-lb of energy. Want to use it on elk, moose or plains game? Not surprisingly, hunters quickly embraced the .416 Rigby, along with similar performing cartridges introduced around the same time like the .404 Jeffery and the .425 Westley Richards, and slightly less powerful, but still potent cartridges like the 9.3x62mm Mauser and the .375 H&H Magnum. The design is certainly sound: In both factory ammunition and handloaded stuff, Ive seen nothing but good results from the .416 Ruger. Ive a longtime attraction to .358 and .375, though they arent true Big Bores. The rifle has a weight of about 4.3kg and a standard barrel length of 61 cm. Launching a 300-grain, .411-inch-diameter bullet at 2,200 fps for slightly more than 3,200 ft-lb of muzzle energy, the .405 Winchester is definitely light, especially in comparison to the .375 H&H with heavy bullets. The Firearms Industry is 2/3 B.S. #1. Another is that it is not straight walled so should feed more reliably and it has the runs on the board from local game rangers to PH's. Swift High Grade Dangerous Game ammo in .404 Jeffery. of energy, with a larger frontal diameter. spectrum of usefulness=1 (due to very limited bullets & rifles). "Mit Scharnier" MTM RLLD-50er Patronenbox fr .300/.458 Win Mag/.444 Marlin u.v.m grn/schwarz 8,50 . So, while both of these cartridges have a rather impeccable reputation, which one makes a better choice for the dangerous game hunter? And all of it from a 26-incher. But that sounds like a good enough educated guess. John Rigby & Co. released the .450 Nitro Express in 1898, to improve the performance of the old .450 Black Powder Express by using modern, smokeless powder. The case volume is a direct result of the volatility of cordite in the African and Indian heat in order to keep pressures low. Should you try and handload your safari ammunition, youll find that there are only a handful of powders that will give you good velocity without having to be heavily compressed. Heres the crop of the lower .40-caliber cartridges, including their strengths and weaknesses. Im going to Alaska in Sept. for bear, and am taking both my .416 Ruger (scoped) and my G&H custom BA in .35 Whelen.. Save my name and email to use for future comments. But, if you want to put an exclamation point at the end of the hunting sentence, the .505 Gibbs will do just that. The load and bullet were revised, and things were set right; however, I feel that there are still flaws in the .458 Winchester. Mag..375 Dakota.375 Ack. And the .458 Win Mag is enough when measured by any sane set of criteria. A 500 grain .458 bullet at 2,040 feet per second is still an extremely potent load and is quite effective on the whole range of thick skinned dangerous game in Africa. While the Rigby does give a considerable increase in recoil, compared to the .375 H&H, it delivers another 1,000 ft.-lbs. A wildcat based on the .458 Winchester Magnum and necked down to hold .416-inch bullets, the .416 Taylor is a solid design. The Jeffery case and. . With a slight shoulder of 8-30, the Jeffery case feeds like it was greased, and was an undeniable blend of striking power and low recoil. That affinity might also include the 9.3s (.366), except I find little motiveso farto select one over .358 or .375. of muzzle energy. Although a modern design, Dakota brass is expensive and somewhat rare in comparison to other cartridge options. 6.5 mm Caliber. Introduced in 1956 in the Winchester Model 70 African rifle, the .458 Win. Some of them are reserved for the double gunslike the rimmed .500 Nitro Expressand others designed for the repeating rifleslike the .500 Jefferybut my favorite among these is the .505 Gibbs Magnum. Brands include Hornady, Lapua, Nosler, Remington, Silver State Armory, Nammo, Prvi Partizan, Winchester and mixed range fired.. Having laid bare my soul on these matters, I could further speculate that one might simply choose a modern 12-gauge with rifled tube and accomplish the same things using saboted copper slugs of 400grsbut I wont. (ZKK-601), .375 H&H Mag, .404 Jeffery or .458 Win Mag (ZKK-602). The example was made in terms of different bullet weights and comparing the 458WM to the 404 Jeff. In addition if I remember correctly the NRA had an independent test run on the velocities of the 458 Win in 1956 which verified the original 2150fps ballistics with 510 gr bullets with the original 25 bbl. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. .405 Winchester .450-400 3-Inch Nitro Express .400 H&H Magnum .416 Rigby .416 Remington Magnum .416 Weatherby Magnum .416 Ruger .416 Taylor .500-416 Nitro Express .404 Jeffery .425 Westley Richards. For me, enough is enough! It looked good on paper, but there were immediate problems. I think the .458 would be best served with a premium 465- or 480-grain bullet to give a bit of room in the case. The John Rigby design from 1898 uses a 480-grain bullet at 2,150 fps for just under 5,000 ft.-lbs. Can't argue with the experience of Clayton. Some are more than a century old; some came about in my lifetime. In the beginning it was plagued with some manufacturing gremlins that resulted in some cases shipping from the factory with too little powder. Or, a traditionally loaded 535gr solid at 2450 fps (7130 ft-lbs). Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. It was chambered in Vickers rifles, and was issued to the game scouts of Rhodesia, Tanganyika and Uganda for dangerous game control work. Ajai Singh, I am an unapologetic admirer & devotee of the classic british african cartidges. flanged cartridge shot in doubles, it succeeded admirably in bolt-action magazine rifles as a rimless cartridge. This fact, along with the many different versions made, makes the No. A 300-grain load at 2600 fps was also offered, but was not very effective against dangerous game. Newer offerings are less flexible in their applications. So, the somewhat demeaned (by the armchair Xsperts) .458 Win Mag can more than hold its own against the old-timer .404 Jeffery. 6,5 - 284 Norma. Use any of the high weight retaining bullets we have available now and I'd guess you'd not see measurable difference. I know there are still some of those stashed on some dealers shelves in my area. Comparing those numbers with my personal .458 Win Mag, the .458 has a distinct advantage. OK, so lets get to work on the .500 Jeffery: Theres been a VERY long, and mostly boring, recent discussion on one of the forums about the .500 Jeffery. The .458 Winchester was born, claiming to drive a 510-grain bullet at 2,150 fps from the muzzle of the Model 70. But that's not to cast doubt with faint praise with today's powders and stronger rifles it is quite capable of impressive performance though nothing extraordinary. Thats one in 1000! With premium bullets, the .416 Weatherby will certainly handle any game that walks the Earth. The same fate befell the .450 Nitro; ammo became more rare than hens teeth. Whether you are reloading for handgun, rifle, shotshell or muzzleloading we have what you need. I used this excellent cartridge for a handsome Cape buffalo in Mozambique. of energy at the muzzle, but the main selling point of the .375 is the versatility. My first rifle was an original 404 by W.J. Weatherbys .416 will push a 400-grain bullet to 2,700 fps, with a correlative recoil level. That load has taken elephant, buffalo and a good number of species of plains game. got off to a rough start in life. Mag..416 Rigby.416 Wby. Perhaps it would be great for some PHs who specialize in elephants, but for the rest of us who live in our more restricted real worlds, it would be another excess in hubris that typically ends in frustration and letdown. Lots of classic rounds but something is missing. While our modern bullet construction has lessened that requirement, the premium bullets of traditional weight extend the performance of these cartridges. Includes 1" (25mm) Opti lock bases and rings, front . Then there are a few European firms that traditionally loaded ammo for the nasties of Africa. "A buffalo could probably be taken with a well placed frozen herring but, the question is: "What's the point"?" This has become my personal favorite of the lot. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the May 2020 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. Hunting dangerous game requires a cartridge of substantial size, one powerful enough to handle those species that have the potential to turn the tables. According to the best evidence available, it was released in 1905, and although the .416 got the glory, the .404 did the work. The CZ 600 Trail proved to be a handy rifle that can down game in hard-to-find places, all without alerting everything with fur that you have moved into the woods. Capacity: 5 round internal magazine Fire Modes: Single shot (bolt action) The Brno ZKK-600 can be seen in the following: Film. Ill spare you that endurance test! If the placement is not right with either neither will the result be. Maybe thats giving too much credit I dunno. Magazine 4 round AICS pattern magazine Barrel Matchgrade hunting barrel with muzzle threat M15x1 Caliber . Yes, ballistics for particular purposes is important, but only one factor among ten. This combination has accounted for elephant, buffalo and all sorts of plains game animals at ranges from 16 to 225 yards. Cartridge Bullet wt. Actual bullet diameter was .423-inch, already established in Europe as the 10.75mm. . Before we get too deep into other details, keep in mind (from previous blogs) our system of scoring: There are 10 criteria with a value of 10 points each that makes a possible 100. As well, I have a couple of boxes of 600-grainers (Barnes Original) in .458. The .270 WSM betters the velocity of the .270 Winchester by 200 to 250 fps; that is a considerable increase in speed over an already speedy cartridge. The .425 Westley Richards came onto the scene in 1909, using a .435-inch-diameter, 410-grain bullet at 2,350 fps for slightly more than 5,000 ft-lb of muzzle energy. It delivers Rigby ballistics in a smaller cartridge, albeit at a higher chamber pressure. In the shooting sports we call that reaction recoil or "kick." Both will kill animals effectively. Recoil for both the 9.3x62 and .404 Jeffery are noticeably less than the .458 Win. I feel it was too light by 2 lbs and kicked like mule. Giant Killers: .45-Caliber Rifle Cartridges, https://www.garrettcartridges.com/penetration.html, https://www.garrettcartridges.com/modern4570.html. The "Safari Classics" were built in the CZ custom shop here in the States with upgraded Classic style stocks with cheekpiece and they used McGowen barrels. Rifle Recoil Table. The rounds for these modern day elephant slayers are. World's most popular community & resource for hunting in Africa since 2007. Winchester The .458 Win. While its paper ballistics indicate that the .375 H&H 300-grain load has more energy (4,263 ft-lb. Some hunters (like Phil Massaro) also recommend dropping down to a 480 grain bullet with the .458 Win Mag. But I'm not sure you could see that depending on the bullet you're using. The point of the PH's comment was to generalize, and I think he got it right. 1 single-shot, with ammunition produced by Hornady. It remains the most popular Weatherby cartridge and the flagship of the line. They provide adequate velocity, reasonable trajectories, and great killing power for their intended classes of game. The 400-grain .416-inch bullet has a sectional density of 0.330, and that plays a big part in the penetration for which it is so famous. It is a cartridge that can use bullets up to 350 grains, and the recoil of the .375 H&H is mild enough that just about anyone can shoot it with a bit of practice. First, and most obvious, I can load it to its full-house specs for an extremely potent dangerous game cartridge. I have used a Winchester Model 70 in .416 Rem. The first is the case capacity. There are those who find the lighter cartridgesthe 9.3mms and .375sto be the pinnacle of versatility, because they offer trajectories similar to some of the popular deer cartridges, such as the .308 and .30-06, yet carry enough horsepower to handle even the largest game. 44 Magnum 45-70 45-90 45 Long Colt 45-.120 Basic.450 Marlin.450 Nitro.450 Nitro 3 1/4.458 Win. Mag. As you know by now, if youve been following these blogs, my own .458 Winchester is also a CZ 550 Magnum, not made in the USA but in the Czech Republic. The beauty of the .375s is found in the wide selection of bullet weights (235 to 350 grains). In 1909 William Jeffery introduced the .404 Jeffery, a 400-grain bullet of .423-inch diameter. Modern steel has resulted in a more potent, modern load: a 400-grain bullet at 2,350 fps, putting todays .404 Jeffery in the same league as the .416s. And since the .404 Jeff is a longer bottle-neck case, it burns a larger dose of slower burning power to achieve about 76% of the ballistics of my .458 Win Mag! However, having spent a considerable amount of time with both cartridgesin a few different riflesI will admit that the Rigby recoils harder than does the Jeffery. By the way, an asidepushed from the same case, with the same powder charge, a larger diameter bullet of the same weight will always yield more velocity. Secondly, and because Im all about flexibility, I can very easily load the Lott down to the original .458 Winchester ballistics. Reloading Brass. Nonetheless, many visiting sportsmen and Professional Hunters use the .458 Winchester with good effect. Components are precision machined from billet aluminum and protected with Cerakote. Stopping power is no myth when deep penetration and immediate CNS kills are needed; in those instances when tables turn and prey becomes predator and hemorrhaging and blood loss are not enough. Too many now worship at the altar of high velocity. vs. 3,732 ft-lb), the heavier bullet weight of the .450-400 gives it an advantage in the field. Email When Available 458 WIN MAG: 500 [+] Close . Modern bullets have made this .40-caliber even better. Any .45-Bore, 10-pound rifle with 3-pound trigger. was the first American big bore cartridge designed for African dangerous game hunting. >223 caliber in Ruger #3?.. The .416 Rigby is a huge rimless case with a 45-degree shoulder. 2, I expect that trend to continue. I used a .416 rifle in India and later bought a .458 Winchester magnum Ruger No1. So, it looks like the .458 Win Mag (at least in the CZ) has a rather significant edge when barrels are the same (by the way I did the psi thing for the 400gr in the .404J with a 26 tube and a .25 for the .458WM) as well as muzzle velocity (and here again, I allowed a couple thousand higher psi in the .404J than Id consider normal). Starting with the elder of the two, the .404 Jeffery came onto the scene in either 1906 or 1907 (this date has been the topic of debate, but my friend Phil Shoemaker has a certified 1907 .404 Jeffery rifle), and was designed to be a rimless variant of the .450/400 Nitro Express, also known as the .400 Jeffery. The 404 uses more powder, which I guess is due to larger case capacity, and since velocities are similar, I suppose the 404 runs at lower pressure. Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. The casebeing cut downdidn't have the capacity to get those big bullets moving at the advertised speed. 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