Due to a clever feint, Simon is forced to watch the deaths of almost all of Team Dai-Gurren's members when he tries to transform the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren into the Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann. Simon was helping people around the world and as a reward he asks them to make flowers grow, to fulfill Nia's dream while wearing her wedding ring as a necklace. While their origin was the same, their personalities contrasted with each other. If I'm not one to rematch, I'd rather see what the rematch had and see if it was good or bad. She could use the power of her Silver Crystal to seal Sonic and banish him out of existence or use her tiara to turn him into dust. The two, finally reunited as husband and wife moments before her death. Because for Gohan, transforming into SSJ2 apparently turned a stomp around, which is a bit much for x2, So the point still stands, that Son Goku is At least 7.02 times more powerful than Simon, I mean his 3-A key isn't there. During the seven years since their victory, the city flourishes by his and Team Gurren's efforts, bringing a long-sought period of peace. This armband is a piece from the cape of Kamina's dead father. After confronting Nia and making her briefly revert to her old self, Simon manages to convince her to let him stop the Human Annihilation System by taking control of the Cathedral Terra and keeping it from falling on Earth. But fine I think SSB is being discussed as being a ssj x ssg multiplier because it is. After an intense battle, Simon kills defeats Antispiral with Lagann Impact, destroying the entire Anti-Spiral tribe and taking the responsibility to protect the universe from the Spiral Nemesis. Simon is also very level-headed, and often kept the rash and reckless Kamina from making poor decisions; Kamina even remarked at one point that his level head is the only thing that kept him alive. He also accepted that he could never be like Kamina, but that doesn't matter as he can still be his own person. Extrasensory Perception: Similar to Kamina, Simon could sense Viral's killing intent, and could dodge his sneak attack via the novel, shown in episode 15. In The Lights in the Sky are Stars, Simon utilized the mass of spiral energy in a pocket universe to create the giant mecha, Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Let me start an actual fucking VS thread cause yall dont know how to do it If he goes for physicals against SGGL himself then he'd decimate SGGL, if SGGL can somehow survive and stat amp plot armor asspull to goku's power then goku just teleports to the dude holding the remote control and knocks him out gg. She tells Simon not to be so dependent on Kamina, as he isn't helpless by himself, as opposed to everyone else, who had lost hope in trying to helping Simon. Initially, he disconnected himself from the rest of the crew and even once lashed out at Rossiu, mocking him for having once believed in a false religion. Goku is locking on to simon's life energy and considering simon is alive then he has life energy hell goku can lock unto the life energy of dead guys or things that shouldn't even have life energy so there's no reason he can't lock on to simon Also given Standard Battle Assumptions, goku is gonna do it if its a viable option Vietthai96 He/Him 7,095 Although Simon himself doesn't have that many feats, he did beat an universal reality warper in h2h, and it could be argued that he's stronger than his own mechas. Even Kittan noted Simon as a first-rate commander. It's more likely that SGGL absorbs his blasts, becomes stronger than him and then beats him. 1. Twenty years later, an elderly Simon, having only a staff tipped with a large drill is seen in the outskirts of Kamina City. It is unknown whether the two ever met each other again. Simon doesn't start with a Mech. Simon and Yoko to a lesser extent would both fall into a deeper depression than the rest of Team Dai-Gurren following Kamina's death, though once Yoko began to rise from her depression, she instructed people not to force Simon out of it, truly believing that only Simon himself could do it. Simon is eventually able to snap massively out of his delirium through a combination of his want to change Nia's desperate situation and his own resolve to rescue his crew. Simon, on the other hand, can create mechas greater in size than entire galaxies without his energy diminishing in the slightest. Despite this, his attractive features were still noticed by some women. Well, in One Punch Man, that is. After the final battle against Antispiral, Simon finally weds Nia, but that happiness is cut short when her body disappears due to her being an Anti-Spiral, a virtual lifeform. Note: Simon has used many other Gunmen, but these are the ones that he has used by himself; the other Gunmen are only used as he is with someone else. Since Goku was breaking the universe apart in prior forms, I think this might just be a really fun battle that I would love to watch. From 160 nominated characters only Goku, Simon, Yusuke and Yugi remain! Detailed Tweet Analytics for Demon King Tanjiro()'s tweet - goku. After this display, he is unanimously elected Team Gurren's new leader. @alextheboss: I don't think Goku could hurt someone who is 6 dimensions above him, also Simon has probability manipulation, he can just make the chances of Goku's attacks hitting to be 0%, @alextheboss: the movies are canon and the most recent version of gurren Lagann, so we're using the movie where Simon fist fought The Anti-Spiral by himself. Kyle Rayner, the powerful Emerald Knight of Justice and Green Lantern. Simon the Digger, the Leader of Team Dai-Gurren and Spiral Warrior. Earlier in the series, for his age so he was quite short, shorter than even Nia, Rossiu and Yoko, all of the same age group. It would also be hard for Goku to actually teleport in front of Simon himself, since IT needs ki (or any similar energy source) to actually go to that object. As he slides down the hill, Yoko watches, looking visually pleased with her decision. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Though he is never again shown in the anime, he became the antagonist in the drama CD, This Simon from the prologue was nicknamed ", Respectively, the Simon from the space arc is commonly known as ". These two were once noble men, down on their luck, without a hope of escape from the traps that are their boring, mundane lives. before forming ttgl, simon absorbed multiverse lybranith into him which are several MULTIVERSES. Sonic may have the strength to take down gods capable of consuming entire timelines as Super Sonic, but witches like Bernkastel can grow big enough to hold infinite-sized universes in the palm of her hand, making her more powerful than anything Sonic's faced. Few members had any faith in Simon's capacity as a leader and a power struggle begins between Simon and Kittan, ending in Simon soullessly yielding. If you believe we have used your copyrighted content without permission, send us an email at [emailprotected] and we will remove it immediately. The Anti-Spiral has a cosmology of 11 dimensions, being able to easily shift throughout space-time and uses mechs that contain a super spiral universe within itself. He only needs to be himself. Then I guess just use base or a weaker Goku? During the battle against Antispiral, Simon's goggles had transformed into star-shaped glasses, first the two points erupting from the sides so they resembled Kamina's, and finally another three points on the top and bottom (in honor of Kittan) to form the star shape. Kittan). They project the user's Spiral Power into the mech. Wouldn't that make him know Simon will absorb his energy attacks?. Goku has faced off against Android 19, who can also absorb blasts. With hundreds of thousands of universes built and expanded upon in the various series, there are all sorts of characters with abilities. Shortly thereafter, Simon awakens and lays waste to the Beastman opposition. In the time that it would take him to create a mech (which he has never done in the series), Goku would kill him. Kamina slowly coaxed Simon out of his timidity through his inspirational speeches and never-give-up attitude, something which Simon would come to emulate. These same feelings forbade him from operating Lagann correctly. In spite of this, there was an ever-present threat of cave-ins from earthquakes, so the village chief employed diggers from the energetic and maneuverable youth to create new routes for the city to expand. However, the Simon from this story, Simon Avant, walks out of the pages and captures the mangaka in his own core drill. However, one has surpassed all others to become the strongest character in anime, i.e., Simon from Gurren Lagann. This triggers a revolt from the people of Kamina City against the government, who destroy Kamina's statue and demand Simon's head. Human, Spiral The Source of His Power, 3. They embraced in Lagann's cockpit on the return from the battle. Simon and Yoko after she frees him from his cell. Concerning the fight, Simon doesn't start with a mech? The face is revealed to be a miniature Gunmen, and the Core Drill Simon dug up is the key to starting it. Anti spiral hit simon with the big bang too and simon ate it and added it to his power. Simon is capable of creating the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, after absorbing the Infinity Big Bang Storm. Simon does have feats of his stat amping abilities helping him catch up to characters that were stomping him, within a relatively short time. Simon can undoubtedly beat Goku without even expending his absolute power. Thanks. Simon the Digger is the main protagonist of the anime and manga series, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Simon is shocked when he saw Yoko kiss Kamina. In addition, he is even more level-headed than he was before. Kamina and Simon had known each other all their lives, living in the underground village of Giha. Epic Dope is the one-stop for all things anime, manga, webtoons, and more! On the other hand, Simons power is basically like a feedback loop that alters reality; as long as he has fighting will, his power is without limits. He manages to generate two Super Spiral Missiles which the team uses to destroy the Death Spiral Machine powering the Sea of Despair but nearly passes out from the strain. Detailed Tweet Analytics for Demon King Tanjiro()'s tweet - goku. Also the go-to guy for all things Epic at EML. Hes on a journey to discover life one bottle of sake at a time! IDK why this thread was bumped, but Goku should stomp here. Goku has a 7x advantage in regular SSJ. A quote of his is used as the title for the episode he narrates, along with a paintbrush-type font. This was demonstrated when he witnessed Yoko, then the object of his affections, kiss Kamina. These goggles were destroyed during the final battle against the Anti-Spirals. With his hand drill, he is capable of creating illogically large holes within seconds. Even Sonic's super form is stated by the creators to be a clear homage to the iconic Super Saiyan transformation. In part 3, Simon had been Kamina City's Commander-in-Chief for 7 years. Well since that mecha is fucking huge I see goku starting with testing ki blasts but there is no reason for these ki blasts to be strong enough to close the gap, so goku punches and wins. Since SSB is SSG x SSJ then you can actually 20x goku's SSJ value as a big low ball for SSB. This, as a man, was much to his chagrin. Simon's first instance of using Spiral Power without Gunmen involved was in episode 15, where he used only his Core Drill to project his energy, blowing a hole into Lordgenome. The real question is, how? The latter's death changed Simon profoundly, and Simon fell into a state of heavy depression. As Goku powers up or transforms, Simon will probably just create a universe-sized mecha to utterly annihilate the Saiyan. As the fifth JoJo of the series, Giornos Stand is easily the most broken ability in the entire franchise. So I'm curious what everyone thinks would happen in a battle with Goku (any itteration, He'll need it in my opinion) vs a human who basically forced evolution to it's ultimate godlike form. Since Simon could kill the Anti-Spiral by himself, that means he has enough power to pilot STTGL since The Anti-Spiral by himself could pilot Super Granzeboma, @ghostwarren: we're using canon versions of characters, game versions obviously don't count. With Giga Drill Break, it creates a drill that is literally ten times the already unfathomable weapon. He also can view the future and predict upcoming attacks with his Observation Haki. In the time that it would take him to create a mech (which he has never done in the series),. The epilogue reveals that the elderly Simon the Digger has been the narrator of the series the whole time, as they have the same voice. Compared to the diameter of the Observable Universe which is 93 Billion Light Years, the . Goku wouldnt be able to get to Simon himself, because Simons Spiral Power goes directly into the mecha, and was the energy was likened to be a Galaxy being created inside, so the mecha would keep getting in the way. Martial Arts: Simon in is capable of keeping up with Lordgenome in a fight with Lagann and Gurren Lagann, without any prior traditional training; with only his limited experience in piloting, which he has only done for a little bit at the time. He is even bigger than the whole Dragon ball universe TTLG has asorbed the multiverse. However, just after proposing marriage to Nia and receiving her acceptance, the one-millionth human child is born, triggering the Human Annihilation System. Idk what this version of Gokus AP exactly is, I will need a scaling chain, since his BoG appearance is already 220x baseline, So with the math Ive done, the difference in AP is at least 56.22 times difference (with Goku having the advantage). Yukari Yakumo vs Zeno (Completed) Kirby vs Zen'o Scarlet King vs . Point is, Goku wouldnt kill Simon. The highlights of such work are produced in the capture of the Gunzar (later, the Gurren) and entrapping the Dai-Gunzan in a desert sinkhole, before later controlling it. Even the regular, galaxy-sized TTGL was a team effort. Simon had her memorial placed near Kamina's. On his adventures, Sonicwill sometimes collect seven ancient relics known as the Chaos Emeralds, which grants Sonicthe ability to bend space-time and transform into the powerful Super Sonic. Against Dai-Gunzan the first time, Simon with his ability to read bedrock, immediately thought up a plan on how to trap Dai-Gunzan. Simon may have the upper hand with the probability manipulation. With the help of Lagann, they set off on a journey under the bright sky with Yoko, to fight against Beastmen, humanoid creatures terrorizing humanity in robots called Gunmen.. But AFAIK, goku's glare isn't something he starts with, so he likely won't use it, What max AP the Forcefield could block, because it is NLF to assume that the Forcefield can block anything, The Ashtanga which are around SGGLs level, threw multiple planets, and couldnt damage SGGL, SGGL has 3-A dura, of course 5-B objects can't harm it, 5-B objects being thrown with the strength of a 3-A, I need a scaling chain, from baseline, not vague feat like that, Anyways, Goku wouldnt go full power off the bat on his opponent just like that, Anyway, Goku's chances of hitting Simon is slim, and there's no use running or hiding as he can be hit no matter where and when. I will close this. She calls his name and he replies in a manner clearly distracted. Against Sonic, Medaka can use The End to copy any of his power-ups and use them better than he can. From 160 nominated characters only Goku, Simon, Yusuke and Yugi remain! He can exist outside of time and nullify attacks that have already hit him, making it so that even an instant death wont be able to kill him. According to the novel, Simon's father and mother were officially named Takshim () and Sheeta (), respectively. Is Simon the Strongest Character in Anime? It forms a connection between the beings possessing SE and the universe and has infinite potential and applications. In one instance, Kamina and the other members were trapped in a small hole caused by an earthquake; everyone was scared, but Kamina's pep talks to Simon motivated the digger to drill a tunnel out of the barricade. @adamantine: How though? For more information, gohere. Sonic's super form has defeated powerful characters capable of breaking the Earth into pieces, a level of power Luffy has yet to achieve. The two seemingly having come to some kind of silent, but mutual understanding, a smiling Yoko in the last words of the series calls his name and tosses him the ring which he catches as he turns to leave. Goku is only universal in MUI which he can't use. Tenya's Engine Quirk grants him super-speed, making him one of his classes' fastest characters. Giha Village, Earth The sight of this new mysterious girl greatly interested Simon and minutes after meeting her, he was willing to risk his life for her to defend her from a Gunmen that followed Simon into the canyon. From what we have seen so far, One Punch Man has superhuman strength and can blast apart meteors to pieces. Okay So Simon's Powerful, but Can He Beat- I. Goku Yes. @emperorthanos: He fights with mechas that are billions of light years tall, and have some good hax. Can the forcefield be broken with sheer AP? When she does just about anything he is outwardly unresponsive, an effect of his then trapped and unrevealed personality. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. After successfully breaking her fall, Simon turns to face Viral but beforehand speaks to Yoko. Confused, Simon wasn't able to focus on the battle until Kamina punched him in the face. Mario is easily MFTL with scaling to Bowser, and Goku is also MFTL with scaling to Beerus. She picks it up thoughtfully, but as she begins to speak with Simon he gently cuts her off. The true universal level threat wins. Goku VS Superman; Season 2. Over the seven-year timeskip, the relationship continued to develop, leading to Simon's marriage proposal to Nia in the first episode post-times kip, which Nia initailly refused, though she quickly accepted after being told about the specifics of marriage by Kiyoh and Kiyal. Goku would always end up in front of the SGGL rather than Simon himself, To be honest, there is a CRT going on with SSB multiplier, this battle should be on hold because if accepted the SSB multiplier couls change the situation of the match, even if we rush to finish this fight, after the CRT it will be re-evaluate, Also given Standard Battle Assumptions, goku is gonna do it if its a viable option, Were not using SSJB anymore, this is BoG Son now, I mean he kind uses IT with kamehameha so that's valid, You can see the space one at the teleportation page, The Kamehameha isnt a good idea because Simon can absorb energy, So a vote for Son Goku? When becoming the Commander-in-Chief of Kamina City, he started training in Martial Arts, and was stated to become quite proficient with only 3 years in training. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. 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